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− | ORGANIZATION STRATEGY | + | '''ORGANIZATION STRATEGY''' |
* Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet) | * Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet) | ||
* The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors. | * The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors. | ||
− | ::* Some items to address: number of channels | + | ::* more emphasis on MC validation with manpower either from R&D consortia |
+ | or from outside | ||
+ | ::* Some items to address: | ||
+ | ::::* number of channels | ||
+ | ::::* resolution vs. material thickness | ||
+ | ::::* detector size | ||
+ | ::::* trade-off of material and performance | ||
* Possible study groups/topics may include: | * Possible study groups/topics may include: | ||
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::* Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies | ::* Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies | ||
::* Computing ad software | ::* Computing ad software | ||
− | ::* Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies | + | ::* Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies - only after deeper analysis |
* A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations | * A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations | ||
* Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge. | * Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge. | ||
+ | ::* Limited number of sub-conveners vs having people feel responsible can be beneficial: a form of officiating responsibilities can be beneficial for this process | ||
+ | ::* Possibly helpful to add higher level sub-conveners for general items and to work with consortia/folding in different technologies | ||
− | PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES | + | '''PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES''' |
* General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort | * General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort | ||
− | * Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - | + | * Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - would like to set up joint Blue Jeans phone call |
* Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs | * Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs | ||
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* Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning | * Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning | ||
+ | * Important to have a general simulation framework ready | ||
− | PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING | + | |
+ | '''PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING''' | ||
* Description of general thoughts from this meeting | * Description of general thoughts from this meeting | ||
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::* In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges | ::* In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges | ||
− | * Describe types of conveners | + | * Describe types of sub-conveners |
* Slide for meeting? | * Slide for meeting? | ||
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+ | '''NEXT MEETING: WEEK OF NOV 18th - SEE DOODLE POLL''' |
Latest revision as of 08:49, 13 November 2019
ORGANIZATION STRATEGY
- Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet)
- The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors.
- more emphasis on MC validation with manpower either from R&D consortia
or from outside
- Some items to address:
- number of channels
- resolution vs. material thickness
- detector size
- trade-off of material and performance
- Possible study groups/topics may include:
- Design and integration - technology choices
- Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies
- Computing ad software
- Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies - only after deeper analysis
- A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations
- Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge.
- Limited number of sub-conveners vs having people feel responsible can be beneficial: a form of officiating responsibilities can be beneficial for this process
- Possibly helpful to add higher level sub-conveners for general items and to work with consortia/folding in different technologies
PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES
- General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort
- Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - would like to set up joint Blue Jeans phone call
- Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs
- seems important to think positive in this transition phase to EIC - it is a new experience for the community, possibly with significant changes in Nuclear Physics and High Energy Physics
- Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning
- Important to have a general simulation framework ready
PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING
- Description of general thoughts from this meeting
- Discuss the goals of the kick-off meeting at MIT (12-13 December) - strategy for working group including the charges
- In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges
- Describe types of sub-conveners
- Slide for meeting?
NEXT MEETING: WEEK OF NOV 18th - SEE DOODLE POLL