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ORGANIZATION STRATEGY
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'''ORGANIZATION STRATEGY'''
  
 
* Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet)
 
* Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet)
  
 
* The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors.  
 
* The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors.  
::* Some items to address: number of channels, resolution needed vs. material thickness, detector size, etc.
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::* more emphasis on MC validation with manpower either from R&D consortia
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or from outside
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::* Some items to address:  
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::::* number of channels
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::::* resolution vs. material thickness
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::::* detector size
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::::* trade-off of material and performance
  
 
* Possible study groups/topics may include:
 
* Possible study groups/topics may include:
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::* Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies
 
::* Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies
 
::* Computing ad software
 
::* Computing ad software
::* Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies
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::* Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies - only after deeper analysis
  
 
* A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations
 
* A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations
  
 
* Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge.
 
* Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge.
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::* Limited number of sub-conveners vs having people feel responsible can be beneficial: a form of officiating responsibilities can be beneficial  for this process
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::* Possibly helpful to add higher level sub-conveners for general items and to work with consortia/folding in different technologies
  
  
PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES  
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'''PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES'''
  
 
* General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort
 
* General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort
  
* Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - competition between groups for subconveners?
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* Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - would like to set up joint Blue Jeans phone call
  
 
* Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs
 
* Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs
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* Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning
 
* Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning
  
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* Important to have a general simulation framework ready
  
PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING
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'''PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING'''
  
 
* Description of general thoughts from this meeting
 
* Description of general thoughts from this meeting
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::* In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges
 
::* In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges
  
* Describe types of conveners
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* Describe types of sub-conveners
  
 
* Slide for meeting?
 
* Slide for meeting?
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'''NEXT MEETING: WEEK OF NOV 18th - SEE DOODLE POLL'''

Latest revision as of 08:49, 13 November 2019

ORGANIZATION STRATEGY

  • Grow/guide the overall effort using a hybrid model including both the existing detector R&D consortia and other groups not part of them (TBD from the spreadsheet)
  • The initial goal is to perform a critical analysis of different detector technologies and detector performance for selected physics processes. The results can be used in a complementarity study of two EIC detectors.
  • more emphasis on MC validation with manpower either from R&D consortia

or from outside

  • Some items to address:
  • number of channels
  • resolution vs. material thickness
  • detector size
  • trade-off of material and performance
  • Possible study groups/topics may include:
  • Design and integration - technology choices
  • Forward detection optimization - magnetic field studies
  • Computing ad software
  • Complementarity of two detectors with different technologies - only after deeper analysis
  • A charge will be defined for the groups - it will be important to coordinate the effort between people working on technologies and people working on simulations
  • Sub-conveners for each group will be identified with the Steering Committee and will assign tasks to group members according to the charge.
  • Limited number of sub-conveners vs having people feel responsible can be beneficial: a form of officiating responsibilities can be beneficial for this process
  • Possibly helpful to add higher level sub-conveners for general items and to work with consortia/folding in different technologies


PRACTICAL CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES

  • General availability of resources: Need input from simulations, but this may be difficult on the scale of a year - initially may concentrate on the R&D Consortia where people already work on detector R&D topics, then think how to grow the effort
  • Nature of interactions with the Physics Working Group - would like to set up joint Blue Jeans phone call
  • Difficult to engage university groups over next 1-2 years as funding for university groups to work on a future EIC project remains to be clearly defined - might need to emphasize large groups and need help from the National Labs
  • seems important to think positive in this transition phase to EIC - it is a new experience for the community, possibly with significant changes in Nuclear Physics and High Energy Physics
  • Important to not divide people by certain detector concepts early on as this limits the overall progress - try to emphasize a parallel approach in the beginning
  • Important to have a general simulation framework ready


PREPARATION FOR SC MEETING

  • Description of general thoughts from this meeting
  • Discuss the goals of the kick-off meeting at MIT (12-13 December) - strategy for working group including the charges
  • In January 2020 can get organized and formalize charges
  • Describe types of sub-conveners
  • Slide for meeting?


NEXT MEETING: WEEK OF NOV 18th - SEE DOODLE POLL