General Meeting Summary 12/2/19

ACTION ITEMS

• Update slides for EICUG SC meeting (Tanja)

• All think about possible subconveners - to be discussed in detail at the MIT meeting

SUMMARY NOTES - DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROPOSED MODEL AND SLIDES

• Good start

• Overall approach: start with this initial version (with some edits), then evolve the structure once the actual work begins

• check effectiveness and make adjustments as needed

• Tracking (slide 2)

• Detector technologies are very different - makes tracking unique

• silicon based vertex detectors vs gaseous detectors
• total performance dominated by lever arm

• Much flux in system and difficult for one sub-convener so keep track of the evolution of the two technologies

• unclear how much Si and how much goes in which region

• Possible solution keeping one box: have one additional sub-convener to have one for each technology

• Far-forward detectors

• many different technologies - detectors have to be integrated
• More consolidated detector technologies compared to tracking, so should be manageable by one sub-convener

• Integration and Installation

• Has to be considered when evaluating detector technologies, e.g. models of cooling, power, cabling, but the details should not impact progress with the main task
• Concern about realistic model of integration at the start of the efforts
• Current simulations do not include services, but this may impact the design
• Agreement that task can likely start somewhat later

• Detector Complementarity

• evaluating detector technologies may naturally lead to this
• add box/task, but can also be started later

• Simulation is key

• Clarify that a strong simulation team is essential
• The model will only work if a strong simulation team exists and it has to go beyond the existing efforts (eRD20 and eRD17)

• Computing (DAQ and electronics)

• Special role of electronics: related to all detector technologies and has to be adequate to the DAQ model
• indicate special role clearer in diagram
• need to have good sub-conveners
• development typically takes 5-6 years (not less), so important to engage electronics groups from the start
• possibility for groups from particle physics to contribute? - there are many involved in LHC high luminosity upgrade

• Summary of organization slides

• highlight some key points in introductory slide
• split organization slide text in two
• add complementary detectors as later task, make electronics role more clear

• List of Sub-conveners

• come prepared with a list of names, but only assign after MIT meeting (after discussion)

• Table on slide 4 will be presented empty
• Names added only after discussion
• Accept suggestion from audience

• important to figure out how to reach out to less well-known groups/people
• leave opportunity for people to step up
• organically grown structure - open to all groups - evolving with time

• MIT Meeting

• Plan on having one hour (closed session) from parallel session to evaluate pros/cons of subconveners - at the end of Thursday parallel session
• Could take additional time on Friday
• Add a slide to inform people of the time table